Old vs. New

You know, my head is still reeling from an email conversation I had last night. It’s this drama about people choosing to call themselves “Christ Followers” and abandoning the term “Christians”.

I have gone to this church in Naperville, Community Christian Church. I had considered it “my” church for a while, but since I have not attended since shortly after J5 was dedicated there, I really don’t know that I’m really an “attender”.

Anyway, through reading one of my regular mommy blogs, Everyday Mommy, I stumbled onto these Mac vs. PC parody videos regarding being a “Christian” vs. a “Christ Follower”. It was really weird to read, on the internet, completely unrelated to my “real life” about someone who was offended by the videos made by CCC.

I posted on E.M.’s blog that I was sorry she was offended, and that they were done at “my church”. We wrote back and forth a couple times and she continued to stress how hurtful they were. At the end of our exchange she sent me to this blog. I will be honest and say that I haven’t been able to read through the whole thing. It honestly makes my head spin. When I got to the part where they were pointing fingers at Beth Moore, who is a woman I deeply respect, I had to stop.

Now, I haven’t been to church at CCC for so long that also I didn’t know about the series called “Christian No More”. The title is inflammatory – and I guess that’s what you want when you plan to grab people’s attention. I was going to start watching the posted sermons/messages from those weeks so I could “hear it from the horse’s mouth” to find out if they’re really “anti-Christian”. I get that they’re not “anti-Christ”, but this seems pretty intense and divisive.

I am going to rant here because I think I’ve exhausted my family’s ears on this topic. Why the hell (pun intended) can’t Christians just ease it back a notch and get along? It says point blank, in Romans 14:

Verse 4 – Who are you to condemn God’s servants? They are responsible to the Lord, so let him tell them whether they are right or wrong. The Lord’s power will help them do as they should.

Yet everywhere I look, as I am trying to find a church home for myself, I run into these horrible pockets of hatred and animosity. Like a friend said last night when I was discussing it with her, “some people are eager to be offended”.

Ok, so am I one of them? Am I eager to be offended by people who are eagerly offended?

What am I even getting myself into by spending more time in the Bible? Is this what is causing my distress?

I really, truly, want to find a church home. I’ve been to the SDA church where my membership resides. It was pleasant. Took J5 to Sabbath School. It was hard doing it alone, I won’t lie to you. There was no way I was going to try to stay for church with J5 wanting to wander and play.

After I went, and didn’t go back, no one followed up with me. That was disappointing.

Of course, I’ve been away from CCC for about a year and the only contact I’ve received from the church in any official capacity is a plea for money to expand one of their buildings.

So much for a church family embracing me.

I am going to try another SDA church nearby, actually it’s the closest one to us. They also have a “Structured Day Care” which interests me, but that’s another topic.

Anyway, as I look at the subject of my post I realize what I was intending to write about was whether it’s bad for the Church to evolve into something that leaves the old behind. I was given a link to an online booklet entitled Free To Live, from a girl I’ve gotten to know through a bible study on the internet. The main thrust of that booklet was that the church must evolve. That the church can and will and must continually change due to the revelations of the Holy Spirit. This book, however, insists that there should be nothing but respect for the church that remains after a new group is “birthed” from it. I believe they’re respecting the Romans 14 verse that even if your faith is stronger than another, and allows you to do more, that you are in no way to offend or harm those whose faith is weaker.

I’d started re-reading that booklet to see if I really agree with what it is saying. It seems that this movement of churches (Willow Creek, Saddleback, CCC) is springing up and out from the traditional view of Christanity. However, there seems to be a lot of birthing pains in the process – much like a teenager who needs to rebel and ends up disrespecting his father in his attempt to define himself as seperate and equal in value.

So, what I really want to know, is who is right? Can they both be right? Can they all just get along? Or is it necessary that one is right and the other is of the devil? That’s what I seemed to be getting from that lighthouse blog. Just a lot of skepticism and negativity.

Well, I’m going to log off for the night. Too much time in front of the computer. Gonna read a little more Bible and maybe a bit of Seventh-Day Adventists Believe – A book from my 2007 Book List.

Good night.


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    Hi Lundie, This topic pains my heart to the very core. They are all my brothers and sisters in Christ. I can’t stand to see His Kingdom or Body divided. It hurts me so very deep. As it also did Paul.
    My hope lies in God. Over and over He speaks of how He will make us one and How He will not return until we come to the Unity of Faith. He also prayed this as His last recorded prayer. I just have to have Faith in Him, knowing that this is all in His purpose to one day unify His body.
    Here are a couple of verses to give you hope also in this area.
    Eph 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;

    Eph 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:

    Eph 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

    Read John 17:20-26 This is Jesus’ prayer for CCC for This lighthouse website and any divided and hateful denominations and all in the future.
    We must have Faith that His prayer will be answered. This is the whole reason that God gave us teachers and prophets and apostles according to verse Eph. 4:13
    I know this does not change things but maybe it will give you more Faith in the fact that these things, He already knew would happen. It is alright, we just have to keep praying the same prayer Jesus did in the Garden. That we all may be one in Him. And that we love one another.

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    Thanks Christa. I so greatly appreciate your views and your scripture!

    I am such a peacemaker at heart that seeing people so hateful just bewilders me. Where is Christ in all of that??

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    I love having an outlet for all that God gives me. I thank God for you and an opportunity to have you as my iron.
    Proverbs 27:17 As iron sharpens iron, a friend sharpens a friend.
    Thank you friend.

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    I *know* the feeling – wondering about being easily offended by those who are easily offended…

    Once more, what an encouragement to hear your heart. Thank you for writing openly and honestly. And, for what’s worth, Beth Moore has ministered to me in countless ways in the last few years. She is firmly grounded in the Word in all I have read of what she’s written and in every study I have he give (by CD). And I get pretty riled up when some people start to lump her, with others (like Max Lucado) who are doing such phenomenal kingdom work (and who would be the first to say it is Christ *through* them ministering, not them), into categories with heretics. Very, very troublesome!

    I really enjoy reading here.

    In Christ alone,

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